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As u dit nie doen nie, sal u danksegging waarskynlik verwoes. (Geen druk!)

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Elke week werk ons ​​saam met ons susterhandelsmerke van Time Inc. Kos en wyn, Gesondheid, MyRecipes, Regtig eenvoudig, Southern Living, en Sonsondergang om hierdie jaar alles wat u nodig het vir die vakansie te bring.

------- Suster merk Southern Living's Test Kitchen het die beste manier gevind om u Thanksgiving -voël behoorlik te ontdooi. As u vinnig ontdooi of as u 'n week het, gee hul wenke die beste resultate, ongeag u tydlyn. Pro tip: dit help altyd om 'n herinnering op u kalender te skryf, sodat u dit nie vergeet nie.

Om gesond te eet behoort nog steeds heerlik te wees.

Teken in op ons daaglikse nuusbrief vir meer wonderlike artikels en lekker, gesonde resepte.

Meer belangrike Thanksgiving Pro -wenke


Gee jouself toestemming om op te hou

Een van my vroegste herinneringe aan die skool was 'n plakkaat wat ek in die kleuterskool gemaak het. Langs my tekeninge van 'n ballerina (my 5-jarige loopbaan aspirasies), was mnr. Rogers (my gunsteling TV-program) en die samekoms van stokfigure wat my gesin verteenwoordig, 'n reuse bord kos.

Ek kon net nie kies nie een gunsteling kos soos my meer gehoorsame klasmaats, want my gunsteling & ldquofood & rdquo was waarna my gesin (en soveel ander Hollanders) verwys & ldquoSondagete & rdquo.

Vir diegene wat nie Hollands is nie, of wat nie in my gesin grootgeword het nie, is Sunday Dinner 'n heerlike maaltyd wat Sondagmiddag na die kerk geëet word en 'n gebraaide, ham of steak bedien word, bedien met kapokaartappels en sous, veelvuldige groente, appelmoes, broodjies, een of ander slaai en nagereg.

Die hele maaltyd is gerieflik verduidelik deur die term & ldquoSunday Dinner & rdquo & mdash, wat dit vir my 5-jarige brein 'n heeltemal logiese keuse vir 'n & ldquofavorite-kos & rdquo gemaak het.

My pa het ELKE week 'n Sondagaand gemaak, en alhoewel jy dink ek is moeg daarvoor om 21 jaar lank elke Sondag dieselfde te eet, kan ek jou verseker dat ek dit nie gedoen het nie!

Ek en Dave het die Sondagete -tradisie voortgesit nadat ons getroud was. Ons het albei uitgesien na 'n groot maaltyd elke Sondag en soms het ons 'n gesin, soms gaan ons na een van ons ouers se huise, maar ons het altyd elke week 'n weergawe van Sondagete gehad.

Ek het aangeneem dat Sondagete vir ewig en altyd 'n konstante in my lewe sal wees. Maar toe ons begin om kinders by ons gesin te voeg, het ek besef hoe gejaagd en bedompig Sondagoggende kan voel met jong kinders, en veral met moeilike babas wie se skedules almal weggegooi is omdat hulle hul oggendslapies gemis het.

Skielik voel die Sondagsete soos 'n taak in plaas van 'n plesier. Dit was stewig geplant onderaan my & ldquohave to do & rdquo -lys in plaas van op my veel meer prettige lys van & ldquowant to dos & rdquo.

Maar die ding is dat ek nie 'n Sondagaand moes maak nie, en ten minste nie op Sondagmiddae nie.

Na 'n paar weke en te veel gedink, het ek besluit tydelik laat vaar een van my gunsteling kindertradisies ter wille van my gesonde verstand en hellip

Nege jaar en vier kinders later het ons nooit teruggekyk nie!

Ons huidige Sondagmiddagete bestaan ​​nou uit oorskiet, toebroodjies of 'n baie eenvoudige, stadige kookmaaltyd wat ek soggens saamgegooi het.


8 maniere om die vet (en ekstra kalorieë) van die Thanksgiving -aandete af te sny

INDYGIRL, 'n stuk pizza sal altyd minder kalorieë bevat as 2 snye pizza. & Quot Twee snye tert bevat minder kalorieë as drie.

Volgens die Caloric Control Council eet die gemiddelde Amerikaner meer as 4500 kalorieë en 229 gram vet op Thanksgiving -dag. Dit is meer as twee keer die aantal kalorieë wat die meeste van ons in 'n hele dag moet eet, en genoeg dieetvet vir meer as drie dae!

Die oorlading kom nie net aan die etenstafel nie. Die meeste van ons begin met 'n feestelike ontbyt, peusel aan peuselhappies terwyl ons wag vir die kalkoen om uit die oond te kom, 'n tweede porsie in te trek en die kombuis in te sluip vir kalkoenbroodjies wat laat in die nag is.

Eerstens kyk ons ​​na 'n bedankingsdag, dan deel ek 'n paar wenke waarmee u al u gunstelinge kan geniet, maar dat u nie so aaklig en opgeblase kan voel na die maaltyd nie.

Ontbyt:
1 groot kaneelrolletjie: 309 kalorieë, 14 g vet
3 snye spek: 109 kalorieë, 9 g vet
418 kalorieë, 23 g vet

Terwyl u op die ete wag:
1 koppie tuisgemaakte eiernag: 343 kalorieë, 19 g vet

Die belangrikste gebeurtenis:
6 gram kalkoen (wit vleis, met vel): 214 kalorieë, 6 g vet
1 koppie kapokaartappels: 162 kalorieë, 1 g vet
1/2 koppie groenboontjiebak: 148 kalorieë, 8 g vet
1 koppie patatbak: 235 kalorieë, 11 g vet
1 koppie tuisgemaakte noedels: 148 kalorieë, 2 g vet
1/2 koppie kalkoensous: 61 kalorieë, 3 g vet
2 broodjies: 168 kalorieë, 4 g vet
2 klappers botter: 72 kalorieë, 8 g vet
1/2 koppie vulsel: 178 kalorieë, 9 g vet
1 sny bosbessiesous: 86 kalorieë, 0 g vet
1 471 kalorieë, 52 g vet

Tweede hulp van u gunstelinge:
1 koppie patatbak: 235 kalorieë, 11 g vet
1/2 koppie vulsel: 178 kalorieë, 9 g vet
413 kalorieë, 20 g vet

Nagereg na die groot maaltyd:
1 sny pampoentaart: 229 kalorieë, 10 g vet
1/2 sny pekanneuttert: 245 kalorieë, 13 g vet
1/2 appeltert: 119 kalorieë, 6 g vet
4 T geklopte bolaag: 50 kalorieë, 3 g vet
642 kalorieë, 31 g vet

Toebroodjie tydens die wedstryd:
6 gram kalkoen (wit vleis, met vel): 214 kalorieë, 6 g vet
2 snye volgraanbrood: 256 kalorieë, 5 g vet
1 T mayonnaise: 90 kalorieë, 10 g vet
523 kalorieë, 18 g vet

Laatnag-peuselhappie:
1 sny pampoentaart: 229 kalorieë, 10 g vet
4 T geklopte bolaag: 50 kalorieë, 3 g vet
279 kalorieë, 13 g vet

Totaal: 4,243 kalorieë, 182 g vet Hoe kan u seker maak dat u genoeg het van Ouma -kapokaartappels en oom Steve se pampoenkaaskoek, maar steeds 'n mate van beheer uitoefen? Hier is 'n paar wenke uit persoonlike ervaring en wenke vir lede.

  • Begin met 'n gesonde ontbyt. In my gesin eet ons altyd kaneelrolletjies op Thanksgiving en Kersoggend. Ek weet nie hoe die tradisie begin het nie, maar 'n lang dag om met suiker te eet, is nie die beste plan nie. Daardie verfynde koolhidrate verbrand vinnig, wat beteken dat u binnekort kos soek om u tot die groot maaltyd te vreet. Kalorieë bespaar deur u gewone hawermout van 300 kalorieë met bessies en 'n koppie melkontbyt te eet: ongeveer 100
  • Eet 'n gebalanseerde maaltyd, selfs al is dit groter as gewoonlik. Kyk na die fees hierbo. Vulsel, brood, aartappels en noedels-alles in groot porsies. In plaas daarvan om 'n koppie van elkeen te eet, streef u na een tot twee porsies in totaal. I Kalorieë bespaar: tot 500
  • Wees 'n voedsel -snob. By my pa se gesin se ete is Gramma Penelope se klawerblaar -aandetrolletjies 'n jaarlikse bederf. Ek spaar altyd plek vir een of twee, met botter. Maar as ek saam met die ander kant van die gesin eet, wat broodjies in die winkel bedien, slaan ek dit oor. Ek sou eerder plek op my bord spaar vir kapokaartappels of vulsel. Kalorieë bespaar deur die rolle en botter oor te slaan: 140 kalorieë
  • Moenie onder druk voel om alles te eet nie. As u daarop fokus om 'n gebalanseerde bord te skep, het u waarskynlik nie plek vir alles nie. En laat ons maar sê, hou u regtig van elke kos op die tafel? (Moenie vertel nie, maar groenboontjie -oondbak draai my maag om. Ek weier dit elke jaar beleefd.) Kalorieë bespaar deur dit oor te slaan, saam met enige ander gereg wat jy nie hou nie: tot 500, afhangende van die gereg
  • Slaan sekondes oor. As gesinsgunstelinge slegs een keer per jaar op die tafel verskyn, is dit moeilik om dit te weerstaan. Neem u tyd, vertraag en geniet u eerste hulp. Voel iemand regtig honger na die eerste ronde Thanksgiving -ete? Waarskynlik nie. Laat u kos bedaar en spaar u aptyt vir tert. Kalorieë bespaar: ongeveer 400 soos hierbo gelys, tot 1500 as u 'n hele tweede maaltyd eet
  • Proe alles. Dankseggingsfeeste is net dit, feeste en 'n kans om 'n verskeidenheid kosse te probeer. Maar as u net 'n paar happies van elke gereg neem-eerder as 'n volledige skeppie-sal u steeds al die kosse wat u liefhet, ervaar. Kalorieë bespaar: tot 1 000
  • Behandel nagereg as 'n peuselhappie, nie deel van die maaltyd nie. Mmm, pasteie. Hulle is so 'n integrale deel van die meeste dankseggingsvieringe. Maar die meeste van ons beskou dit as 'n einde aan die ete. Wat as ons, in plaas daarvan om tert onmiddellik na ete te eet, wag totdat dit 'n peuseltyd is? En wat as ons net 'n klein stukkie van elkeen gehad het? Kalorieë bespaar: tot 400, afhangende van die grootte van u snye
  • Slaan die weiding oor. 'N Kalkoen -toebroodjie hier, 'n sny tert daar en 'n koppie eiernag. Daardie ekstras voeg by. Kalorieë bespaar deur dit oor te slaan: tot 700

Gebruik u een van hierdie wenke? Gee u aandag aan kalorie telling en voeding op Thanksgiving?


PRIME RIB RESEPTE KOOKWENKE:

Haal die vleis ten minste 4 uur voor die kook uit die yskas. Dit laat die vleis binne en buite eweredig kook.

Bereken die aanvanklike kooktyd deur 5 minute per pond vleis toe te laat. Byvoorbeeld, 'n braaipan van 5 pond benodig 25 minute van die aanvanklike kooktyd, terwyl 'n braaipan van 9 pond aanvanklik 45 minute sou moes kook.

Dit is 'n moet om 'n digitale vleistermometer te gebruik! 'N Deel van die voorbereiding van 'n eerste ribbetjie sluit in dat die oonddeur ure lank gesluit word. Tensy u die handmatige termometer kan posisioneer sodat dit deur 'n geslote oonddeur nog steeds sigbaar is, spandeer 'n paar dollar ekstra en gaan digitaal. Jy sal nie spyt wees nie.

U kan verkeerd gaan met die vryf! Ons swaar op knoffel en tiemie, maar as roosmaryn u ding is, verdubbel die hoeveelheid wat ons benodig.

Beplan u kookskedule sodat u genoeg tyd oorlaat om u eerste gebraaide gebraaide gebraai te kook. Die bykosse wat ons kook, neem gewoonlik 30 minute. Terwyl ons vleis rus, berei ons die bykosse voor en gereed om in die oond te sit sodra die vleis verwyder word.

Alhoewel dit nie verpligtend is nie, hou ons daarvan om ons Prime Rib te ontbind en vas te maak, sodat dit makliker is om te sny nadat dit gaar is. As u nie weet hoe u dit moet doen nie, kyk dan na hierdie You Tube -video. Dit is ongelooflik maklik om te doen.

Nuwe oonde kan weens die interne waaier vinniger afkoel as ouer modelle. As u agterkom dat u oond te koel is na die 2 ure se wagtyd, skakel die oond weer aan op 500. Hou dit net aan totdat die oond weer 500 is, en skakel dit dan af. Hou weer die OondDEUR toe om die hitte binne te hou. Solank u 'n digitale termometer het, hoef u nie bang te wees nie!

Het u nog vrae? Lewer gerus 'n opmerking voor en ons antwoord graag!


Waarom u hierdie lam kleftiko/Griekse gebakte lam moet probeer maak?

  • Dit is nie 'n resep wat u binne 'n uur op die tafel kan hê nie. Maar dit IS baie hande af sodra jy spandeer het 15 minute voorbereiding alles. Sit die vleis bo -op die groente ('n Hollandse oond van Le Creuset of soortgelyk is perfek, en dit is aan die duur kant, maar dit hou letterlik 'n leeftyd). Gaan dan in die oond en sit op die bank met u Netflix -reeks!
  • Na aanleiding van die punt hierbo en hellip is dit 'n 4 uur gebakte lam. Sommige resepte van gebakte lam benodig 7 of meer ure se gebraai. Wen!
  • U het die gewone Griekse smaak in hierdie stadig -gekookte Griekse lamresep (suurlemoen, oregano, knoffel en hellip), maar kaneel voeg 'n verrassende, maar ook kenmerkende kenmerk by Griekse diepte van geur. Jy en rsquoll is mal daaroor!
  • Dit is perfek om te eet en 'n groot gesin of 'n klein skare te beïndruk. Met brood en slaai aan die kant kan jy veilig bedien 6.
  • Het ek dit genoem & rsquos uitmekaar val heerlik?

Spruitkool, appel en granaat slaai

• Soos ek verlede week besef het, wat groot maaltye (ons het 16 mense gehad het) skrikwekkend maak, is nie net die kookkuns as die groot hoeveelheid daarvan nie en die logistiek wat nodig is om dit te bestuur. Ek bedoel, wie hier het 'n kombuis wat gebou is om 16 mense te voed? Vertrou my, dit is nie jy nie, dit is jou kombuis wat dinge moeilik maak.


• Dus, hoe meer tyd u spandeer om dinge uit te werk, hoe minder stresvol sal dit wees. Omdat ek Team Casserole, dit wil sê ek verkies geregte wat diep en bruisend is, vroegtydig gemaak kan word en goed kan verhit, vergewe hulle almal redelik te lang of kort opwarmingstye. Te lank, hulle word 'n bietjie ekstra knapperig en gerooster bo -op (yum), te min, hulle pak nog steeds baie warmte binne, selfs al borrel hulle nie warm nie. Ek het al die geregte warm gemaak voordat die kalkoen ingegaan het, en dan een of twee ingeskuif terwyl dit gebraai het. Toe die kalkoen uitkom en ons 30 minute nodig gehad het om te rus en dit te sny, het al die kante teruggegaan om warm te word.
• Alles wat vooraf gedoen moet word, moet so vroeg as moontlik wees. Jy doen dit vir jy. As ons baie mense by die huis het, lei dit dikwels daartoe dat ek myself nogal uitputtend die aand voordat ek alles voorberei het, maar dan word ek uitgerus en word ek 80% daar. Dit is eintlik nie 'n stresvolle dag nie, wat beteken dat ons meer geneig is om die partytjie te geniet. As ek die vorige aand nie kan klaarmaak nie, sal ek dit soggens doen. Dit is vir my noodsaaklik dat daar 'n klein venster is tussen groente- en nie-kooktyd tussen die voorbereiding en die voorbereiding van die goed wat op die laaste minuut gedoen moet word. Dit is ook 'n goeie tyd om in iets nuuts te verander.
• Al die pasteie is vroeër die week gemaak en het in die yskas (pekanneut) of in die vrieskas (pampoen) ingedien totdat dit nodig was.
• Uiteindelik dink ek dat ons almal vir die Christmukkah vir mekaar klein dingetjies moet koop. Ek het … 4? Watter soort danksegging het net 4 warm geregte uit die kombuis? By niemand waarby ons wil wees nie, baie dankie.

Oor daardie Turkye
• 'n Week voor Thanksgiving is dit moeilik om kalkoene te vind.
Brining is 'n heerlike nagmerrie. Ek weet dat baie mense dit nie doen nie. Ek weet dat jy dit nie hoef te doen nie. Ek weet dat daar minder kranksinnige opsies is, soos droë pekel. Maar ek is regtig nie lus vir kalkoen nie, want ek vind dit altyd droog en dikwels smaakloos. En ek wil nie 'n bietjie te gaar kook om dit te verwoes nie. Dus: brining. O, maar wat 'n komedie was dit en met komedie bedoel ek huil-lag emoji's. Dit behels 'n voël van 19,5 pond, 1 van hierdie sakke en 2,5 liter pekelwater, wat 'n sterk druk op die sak veroorsaak het om dit oop te maak. Mopping was betrokke. Toe sit ek dit in die yskas (40 pond, geen maklike prestasie nie, maar tog op die een of ander manier makliker as die tyd dat ek my 20-ponder sywaarts met 'n geboë rugkant uit die kruidenierswinkel moet haal en ontdek dat die bodem het 'n klein gaatjie daarin, en ek weet nie of normale mense wie se moeders nie mikrobioloë was nie, salmonella onder hul grootste vrese noem, maar rou kalkoensap oral in die yskas wat in die laaie drup, vereis dat 'n gevaarlike skoonmaakvlak vereis word totdat ek kon ophou om my te bekommer.
Waar is die resep, Deb? Ons was so gelukkig met die kalkoen, maar ek kan nie met 'n goeie gewete 'n resep vir u deel oor iets so epies wat ek net een keer gemaak het nie. Ek bedoel, wat as ek iets groots gemis het en al u vakansies verwoes? Dus, ek belowe, dit kom en dit sal die wag werd wees.

Die spyskaart

• Ina Garten ’s Baked Fontina (ek hoop om binnekort 'n meer begrote weergawe hiervan te deel)
• Mielie -muffins (gebring deur 'n vriend)
• 'n Giant Kale Caesar gemaak met 'n rif op hierdie dressing. Ek ’d bedoel om hierdie slaai egter te maak.
• 'n Opgemaakte Turkye-mengsel met ongeveer 50% Thomas Keller, 30% fynproewers en 20% Alton Brown
• Cathy Barrow se Challah -vulling met sampioen en seldery met tuisgemaakte challah, want mal dinge gebeur in my vrieskas
• Groenboontjie -braaipan met bros uie (verdubbel)
• Geroosterde Delicata -muurbal met bruin botter, kalk en pepitas, behalwe dat ek nie genoeg tyd het nie, sodat dit net gebraai is
• Wortelgroentegratien
• Gebakte boontjies (gebring deur 'n vriend)
• Ree Drummond ’s Twee keer gebakte aartappelgereg (gebring deur 'n vriend)
• Cranberry Sauce (gebring deur 'n vriend, die een wat my geleer het om my eie dag te maak)
• Cheesecake-Marbled Pumpkin Slab Pie
• 'n Baie groot pekanneuttert
• Terloops, ons het alles hierbo gemaak, behalwe die sous en natuurlik die kalkoen -vegetariër, bloot deur groente -aftreksel te gebruik, dit was nie 'n uitdaging nie en niemand het iets gemis nie. Vir die twee keer gebakte aartappels is 'n stuk spekvry bo-op gelaat.

Naskrifte

• Moenie die krag van 'n wonderlike, knapperige slaai onderskat nie, die perfekte kontras met al die botterdeurdrenkte en gluten-vol wonders oor die tafel. Dit gaan vinnig. Ek deel vandag die slaai I ’d bedoel om te dink dat dit die perfekte toevoeging op die laaste oomblik is tot enige spyskaart en so maklik om van die huis af saam te neem. Ek waarborg dat die gasheer dit sal waardeer.

• Laastens, vra my enigiets! Ek voel asof ek 100x soveel van Thanksgiving weet as 72 uur gelede, en die meeste van wat ek gedoen het, is baie vars in my kop. Ek beantwoord graag die vrae wat u in die kommentaar hieronder het. Ek val hulle waarskynlik vanaand aan, so moenie bekommerd wees as jy nie onmiddellik reageer nie.

Voorheen

Spruitjies, appel en granaat slaai

  • Porsies: 4 tot 6
  • Tyd: 30 minute
  • Bron:Aangepas deur Michael Solomonov 's Zahav
  • 1/2 groot rooi ui, in klein blokkies gesny
  • 2 eetlepels rooiwynasyn
  • 2 teelepels gemaalde sumac
  • 1/4 teelepel kosher sout, plus nog 'n slaaisous
  • 2 koppies gerasperde spruitjies
  • 1/2 koppie vars granaatpitte (van ongeveer 1/2 groot)
  • 1/2 'n groot ongeskilde appel, ontpit en in blokkies gesny (ek gebruik Granny Smith, die boek beveel Pink Lady of Honeycrisp aan)
  • Sap van 'n halwe suurlemoen, plus nog meer na smaak
  • 1 1/2 tot 2 eetlepels heuning, plus nog meer na smaak
  • 1/4 koppie olyfolie
  • 3/4 koppie geroosterde, afgekoelde okkerneute, liggies fyngedruk of grof gekap
  • Gemaalde chipotle chili peper, urfa biber pepers, warm gerookte paprika of 'n ander chili vlok, na smaak

Meng al die slaaibestanddele, insluitend rooi uie en die pekelvloeistof, in 'n medium bak en geur na smaak met sout en rooi peper. Proe en pas die bestanddele aan soos jy wil. Ek het weergawes van die resep gesien met meer heuning, olyfolie en suurlemoen.

Hierdie slaai kan vooraf voorberei word, maar ek hou die sous daarvan af, hoogstens 'n uur voor opdiening, sodat dit nie die spruite verkleur nie.


Tuisgemaakte Vick's Vapor Shower Discs

1 koppie koeksoda
1/2 koppie mielieblom **
1/3-1/2 koppie water (Miskien moet jy min of meer byvoeg.)
15 druppels essensiële olie van bloekom of 2-3 teelepels. Vick ’s Vapor Rub* (u kan ook ander olies soos peperment of kamfer 15 druppels elk byvoeg)

Meng met genoeg water om 'n dik pasta te maak. U kan gooi in muffinpanne wat met papier uitgevoer is, klein balletjies maak en op 'n bord sit of in 'n silikoonblokkie of muffinbak sit. Laat hulle vir ten minste 12 uur of oornag stol totdat dit op die toonbank droog is. Haal uit papiere of silikoonbakke en bêre in 'n lugdigte houer.

As u gereed is vir gebruik, plaas 'n skyf op die vloer van u stort en laat die water daarop loop terwyl u stort.

*Essensiële olies kan duur wees. As u nie baie olies vir hierdie resep wil koop nie, kan u 1 bottel van die algemene dampvryf koop en net 'n paar teelepels in hierdie mengsel gebruik.

** U kan die mielieblom uit die tuisgemaakte Vick Dampdoucheskyfies laat. Ek sit dit in omdat dit help om hulle beter bymekaar te hou.

Klik hier om ons kookboeke vir eet op 'n sent te kry, met lekker resepte en goeie wenke om u lewe makliker te maak en u geld te bespaar!


Matrasse of stoffering

Begin deur die hele stof te stofsuig, en gooi dan die vakuumfilter en die sak as u klaar is om te voorkom dat skimmelspore die volgende keer in die lug ontsnap. As daar nog vlekke is, spons die oppervlak met 'n lap wat met 1 koppie vryfalkohol en 1 koppie warm water en mdash bevochtig is, maar doen eers 'n steekproef op 'n verborge gebied om seker te maak dat die stof nie beskadig raak nie. Om af te spoel, vee nog 'n tweede keer af met 'n waterdampte spons. Sonbank die bank of matras vir 'n paar uur om reuke te verwyder of 'n waaier te gebruik. Spuit met 'n ontsmettingsmiddel soos Lysol om spore wat in dik vulling kan bly, dood te maak. As u meubels nog steeds muf ruik of vlekke weer verskyn, gooi dit weg.


6. Gebruik koeksoda

Cook geïllustreer verduidelik hoe koeksoda die oppervlak van die vleis alkaliseer, die proteïene en aposbindings belemmer en die vleis sagter maak. Baie mense hou van hierdie metode, maar sommige kla dat daar selfs 'n vaag alkaliese smaak bly, selfs nadat dit gespoel is.

Watter vleis of snye werk die beste? Van alle soorte, maar aangesien dit die smaak en tekstuur van die vleis beïnvloed, gebruik slegs die goedkoopste, taaiste snitte. Aangesien dit slegs op die oppervlak werk, moet hierdie metode slegs op die kleinste, dunste, bytgrootte stukke gebruik word.

Hoe moet ek die koeksoda gebruik?

  1. Bedek en smeer die vleis met koeksoda deur 'n eetlepel daarvan in u hand te hou en 'n dun lagie te besprinkel OF los die koeksoda in water op en laat die vleis dompel.
  2. Laat dit 15-20 minute op die toonbank rus. As u dit langer laat, sal dit die vleis nie seermaak nie, maar dit sal ook sagter wees.
  3. Spoel deeglik om al die koeksoda te verwyder, aangesien dit die tekstuur en smaak beïnvloed (maar droog die vleis deeglik voordat u dit kook).

Was of verwyder al die oortollige sout voordat dit gaargemaak word.


32 gedagtes oor & ldquo -seks, toestemming en Gilmore -meisies: 'n nadere blik op die kêrels van Rory ’s

Ek het altyd die beste van Logan gehou omdat hy vir Rory baie gelyk het sedert hulle voor haar kamer gedebatteer het. Dit lyk asof hy altyd meer respek vir haar het. Dit maak my mal as mense so vasbeslote span Jess is, want ek sou bereid wees om te wed dat nie een van die mense 'n Jess sou wou hê om met hul tienerdogter uit te gaan nie!

Dankie Jana. Ek hou baie van die idee om na te dink oor watter persoon dit goed sou gaan as jy met jou dogter uitgaan. Dit kan so anders wees as by wie jy aangetrokke sou wees.

Ek het gehuil die laaste keer dat jess rory sien, dit was so hartseer omdat ek van jess gehou het, maar hy was nie 'n baie goeie vriend nie, want al wat hy ooit wou doen, was om net te dink.

Net om hier te pik – In Keg! Max! Rory sê “ wag ” twee keer, nie “no ”. Ek weet dat alles wat in 2016 nie is ’t “yes ” is “no ” nie, maar ek glo nie dat ASP wou hê dat haar kykers aan Jess moes dink as 'n poging tot verkragter nie. U sê dat hy nie toestemming het nie en dat dit voortduur, maar ek voel dat as u wil hê dat hierdie artikel onbevooroordeeld is, u die verandering moet aanbring.

Kate – Dankie vir die pik, ek het die toneel weer gekyk, en jy het reg. Ek het die artikel hierbo opgedateer waar ek dit verkeerd gehad het.

Op grond van die behandeling hiervan tydens die vertoning, stem ek saam dat ASP nie wou hê dat haar kykers moes dink dat Jess probeer om Rory te verkrag nie. Dit gesê, dit het vir my soos 'n gedwonge poging tot seks gevoel vir die eerste keer dat ek dit per ongeluk bekyk het en omdat hy nie die idee van toestemming in gedagte gehad het nie, maar dit gebeur nietemin. “ Wag ” beteken nie dat “ aanhou nie, ” en kan dus nie as toestemming beskou word nie.

Die snaakse ding is dat ek van Jess hou, en ek wil hom gelukkig sien, net nie saam met Rory nie.

Hierdie artikel en hierdie opmerking spesifiek was regtig wonderlik. Ek waardeer baie hoe eerlik jy is teenoor al die karakters, veral as jy dink hoe hul agtergrond hul gedrag beïnvloed. Die feit dat u nog steeds vasbeslote was oor toestemming en 'n sterk vrouestem, was duidelik. Ek hou van Jess, en ek dink hy het groot geword, maar dit was so 'n noodsaaklike artikel. So goed gedoen!

Dean is nou vir my net grillerig. Ek het van hom gehou in die eerste seisoen, maar toe hy in seisoen 2 besit van Rory geword het, het dit my laat dink aan my eks, wat nie soos ek die naam van iemand genoem het waarmee ek gewerk het nie, tensy ek 'n volledige dossier daaroor gegee het, sodat hy dit nie sou doen nie Ek dink nie ek gaan hom met hulle bedrieg nie.

Ek haat Logan. Alles aan hom skreeu vir my 'n manipulerende selfsugtige ruk. Die toestemming van Rory was nie oor haar nie, maar om sy eie gat te bedek. Dit was hy wat Rory as 'n besitting beskou het. Die Berkin -sak is 'n goeie voorbeeld. Rory het geen idee gehad wat so spesiaal daaraan was nie, totdat Emily haar vertel het. Nadat hy dit agtergekom het, het Rory toe begin dink dat hy regtig van my moet hou/omgee as hy vir my iets spesiaals en spesiaal en uniek en 8221 koop. Dieselfde met die vuurpyl toe Logan na Engeland is. Dit was 'n duistere verwysing in haar/hul lewe dat dit haar aan hom laat dink het terwyl hy weg was, en terwyl hy haar nie sleg laat voel het omdat sy nie dadelik die verwysing geken het nie, het hy 'n bietjie soos 'n kind of 'n kind behandel. troeteldier toe sy die verwysing na die geskenk wel besef het. Logan het Rory 'n soortgelyke gevaar vir Jess gebied, maar daar was ook 'n veiligheidsnet wat saam met Logan gekom het. Alles oor Logan was regtig nie 'n aaklige mens nie, ek is 'n gawe ou wat dit net geniet om mense te manipuleer totdat hulle dinge op my manier sien, want my manier is die enigste manier. Jess, en toe neem hy vir Rory persoonlik opstaan, en wys my hoe hy nie vir haar omgee nie en haar net wou manipuleer om in sy wêreld te pas, en as hy klaar was, sou hy haar laat val het, want wat Rory uniek en spesiaal sou weg wees en nie meer die meisie nie, hy het verlief geraak en dan die veranderinge aan haar blameer en haar soos vuilgoed laat voel totdat sy belowe het om te verander, en dan was dit te laat en sou hy 'n nuwe meisie vind kon beheer. Dit is waarom hy so vinnig deur soveel meisies gegaan het. Hulle was te maklik om te doen wat hy sê, en Rory was vir hom 'n uitdaging.

Jess het Rory op 'n bietjie voetstuk. Hy het nie gedink dat hy hom aan die standaarde van die samelewing sou voldoen om goed genoeg te wees vir Rory nie. Niemand wou sien hoe slim hy is nie, tensy die samelewing sê dat hy slim is. Niemand het na Jess geluister of die tyd geneem om hom te leer ken nie, behalwe Rory. Hy sien in Rory haar behoefte aan avontuur. Haar afgod is Christiane Amanpour, wat op 'n tyd CNN Senior Oorlogskorrespondent was. Hy het haar 'n bietjie avontuur gegee en het niks terug gevra om aan te hou om eerder met hom te praat as met hom nie. Rory was sy anker en stabiliteit in teenstelling met sy ma of Luke. Toe sy lewe heeltemal uitmekaar was, het hy na haar gegaan omdat hy saam met haar in sy lewe geglo het dat hy enigiets kon doen. Wat maak Keg! Max! skrikwekkend is dat Jess se optrede baie anders was as Jess. Jess was nooit so openlik en kwesbaar vir 'n persoon soos met Rory nie, en hy was bang. Ek glo op 'n manier dat hy wou hê dat Rory hom moet haat, en dit weerspieël die selfveragting wat hy gehad het, sodat hy in sy haat vir homself geregverdig kon word. Dat hy werklik die waardelose persoon is wat die samelewing hom wil skilder. Toe hy eers aan die gang was, het hy in homself die persoon gevind wat Rory altyd geglo het hy kan wees.

Dankie dat u 'n teenpunt gegee het ten gunste van Jess.

As seisoen sewe in ag geneem word, sal ek met Logan saamstem. Ek neem seisoen sewe nie in ag nie, want selfs Lauren Graham het uit sy karakter kommentaar gelewer op baie dele van seisoen sewe:

'Ek en Christopher [Hayden] het in daardie seisoen getrou. Toe ons terugkom om [die herlewing] te doen, sê ek iets oor ek getroud was of iemand sê dit vir my, en ek het gesê: 'Ek was nooit getroud nie.' Ek het vergeet, '

Vir Logan was seisoen sewe een/derde van wat hom gedefinieer het as kykers. (Die ergste vir April, vir wie dit die helfte was van wat haar gedefinieer het.) As die skrywers so ver was met Lorelai, wat hulle drie keer so lank geken het as wat hulle Logan geken het, het ek hulle nie vertrou nie van die program reg, so vir my het seisoen sewe nie gebeur nie.

Nou gebeur die Berkin-sak in seisoen ses, net soos die toneel met Jess (een van twee tonele waar Logan jaloers word), gevolg deur die tyd uitmekaar/breek. Ek het wel gedink hoe ek sou voel om vroeg huis toe te kom om my man op die punt te sien om te eet met 'n ou rommel waarvan ek nie eers geweet het nie, en ek het probeer uitvind hoe lank hulle nog nie tussen die geveg en Thanksgiving gepraat het nie, aangesien dit Logan min of meer vergifnis sou gee met die slaap met ander. Wat sy toevallige seks betref, ek dink dit was eintlik net toevallige seks, wat nie deur meisies gegaan het nie. Om deur vriendinne te gaan, moet jy hulle eintlik as vriendinne beskou, en so. Ek lees dit anders as jy, wat goed is.

Jess het Rory gekry, en Rory was vir Jess wat niemand anders was nie. Ek hou van wie hy geword het, maar ek hou nog steeds nie van hom en van Rory as 'n paartjie nie, ek verkies hulle as vriende. Ek het sy optrede net nie gevind in Keg! Max! uit karakter, want Jess was nie goed daarin om sy emosies opsy te sit om te sien hoe ander mense nog deur hulle beïnvloed is nie (insluitend dié vir Rory). Weereens, dit is 'n gebied waar ons tot verskillende gevolgtrekkings gekom het.

Ek stem heeltemal saam met alles wat jy nou net gesê het, Tina. En ek verstaan ​​nie hoe mense verby al die manipulasies van Logan, sy ego, selfsug, neerbuigendheid, bevoorregte houding en afknouery kan kyk nie, net omdat hy (soms) goed was vir Rory. Hy het geld gehad en weet hoe om dit te gebruik om te kry wat hy wil hê. Hy behandel haar soos 'n kind en hou van sy speelgoed, en as sy met hom getrou het, sou ek 'n kwaai, wrokige alkoholis geword het wat haar op een of ander manier mishandel het, of haar herhaaldelik (of albei) bedrieg het. Niemand kan hierdie groot gebare so lank byhou nie, en met sy gevoel van geregtigheid sou hy uiteindelik iets terug verwag het.

Logan het vir Rory se selfgesentreerde, regte kant gespeel, en vir my moes die program hom na net een seisoen laat val het en verder gegaan nadat sy 'n les oor die aspek van haar lewe geleer het.

Btw, let op hoe Rory teruggaan na Logan (in die nuwe seisoen) toe sy ronddwaal? Ek weet nie presies hoe lank hulle weer saam was nie, maar ek glo dit was omtrent die tyd toe haar lewe begin uitmekaar val. Dit behoort iets te sê oor hul verhouding.

Ek dink nie dat Jess die bevordering van Rory op gesonde maniere beheer nie. U geliefdes is veronderstel om u te help om u op te voed as u onder is, en u te vertel dat u 'n idioot is as u uit Yale vertrek om in die DAR te wees. En om 'n 16-jarige kind wat deur sy eie ma uit die huis geskop is, te vergelyk met Logan, is nie regtig 'n billike vergelyking nie (om nie eens te praat van die vergelyking van 'n 15-jarige Dean met 'n 20-jarige Logan nie). Natuurlik gaan Jess 'n paar groot probleme ondervind, maar ondanks dit alles het hy nog steeds self iets gemaak en 'n bemoedigende, verantwoordelike en redelik wyse volwassene geword. Terwyl Logan nog steeds soos 'n bedorwe ryk kollege optree, was hy tot dieselfde droom met sy ander bedorwe kollegas, en moes hy vir pappa werk, want hy kon nie of wou nie 'n lewe vir homself maak nie.

Ek weet dat hierdie pos voor die nuwe seisoen was, maar ek sou eintlik dieselfde oor hulle gesê het!

Btw, ek is nie 'n span Jess of 'n span Dean nie, maar ek verafsku hulle nie net soos ek Logan doen nie. Ek hoop dat sy iemand soet en bemoedigend vind, wat liefdevol op haar foute kan wys, en dat sy nie 'n sukkelende pas kry as dinge nie sy gang gaan nie.

Soveel meer om te sê, maar ek dink dat dit vir nou meer as genoeg is!

I think it is a testament to the acting of both Milo Ventimiglia and Matt Czuchry that people are as passionate about those to characters (rather they hate them or love them, people tend to respond to them).

For the most part, there is not much for me to add that I haven’t already added in response to Tina’s comment, so you are informed on my arguments, and find them not strong enough. This article is from before the revival, and complicated with ASP’s treatment of season seven in the revival. She has stated that she has not watched season seven, and that she was disappointed that Lane had kids in it, as it was something she could not largely ignore in putting the story lines back to where she wanted them. Her methods of putting the story lines back are, um, problematic, across the board. But that is a discussion for another time, which I would like to put more thought behind before I put it out there.

One thing I will comment on is that when it comes to respect, I would expect the same from my five-year-old-daughter as I would from her when she is an adult. I would also expect the same from a boy as I would a girl. “Boys will be boys” is how we end up with a 20-something-year-old who thinks it is okay to have a “ego, selfishness, condescension, privileged attitude, and bullying.” Failure to stop pushing for sex when someone says “wait” is never okay, I don’t care the age of the people involved.

That said, there is some truth to the fact that all boyfriends have major flaws, and I respect that you read the actions of Logan different than I do. I also respect that you put a different weight on Jess’s actions than I do.

I had a conversation on Facebook with someone who felt I was too harsh on Dean, and I wish it would have happened here, to give people another take on the issue.

Tina power, I understand where you’re coming from with Logan however, I can strongly disagree! Logan asked for consent and understood when he made the mistake of ‘cheating’ and apologized. When he broke up with her from his sister he seemed like a coward but tried to win her back, he thought it was just a silly experiment that failed but then he realised that he couldn’t live without her and he loves her! In the final season, he proposes and Rory said no thus was not because she stopped loving him it was because she new that she would have to leave and the fact that she had a strong bond with her mother prevented her from doing that. In my opinion, Logan was the best boyfriend as he bought Rory anything. When he got her the Berkin Bag (a bag that expensive) Rory felt that he loved her and told him how she felt about him, Logan then replied with “wow, the lady who sold me tge bag said this was gonna happen.” Rory then relied with something like “you don’t have to reply yet, I fact you don’t at all.” And Logan tild her a story of saying he loved other girls and not meaning it. This implied he is kind because he didn’t say it back just to say it, he didn’t say it back because he wasn’t ready and simply didn’t want to ruin the relationship between them although he made thing awkward when he said it while she was trying to get into her house. Thank you for reading this and honestly I think Jess was a jerk and u agree with on with dean.

This is good food for thought! I’ve watched the show for years and this perspective never occurred to me. What I have based my boyfriend opinion on is who did Rory ever pursue? Most of them were pursuing her for the majority of the relationship. However, with Jess, she made a grand gesture towards him when she takes the bus to NYC, skipping school. And also when she heads to Philly years later to see him at the book release. I don’t see any other examples with Dean or Logan where she made similar pursuits. For this reason alone, I’ve been Team Jess. But your consent point is really challenging my opinion! Dankie vir die deel.

Wow, grand gesture huh? That is also an interesting interpretation! I had never considered anything like that before. People do note that Rory has never cheated on Jess but has cheated with Jess, but on the other hand Rory has also turned Jess down a lot. It’s difficult to see where they stand, but Rory definitely does stretch herself the most with Jess.

Looking at who Rory seemed o want the most is a good way to think about it. It was funny, when I was younger, I liked Jess better, but found I liked Rory and Logan together better, even when I didn’t really like Logan. I didn’t understand why until I was older. Funny how those things work.

I think it’s hard to judge who is better as a couple, as people have said, Jess was a messed up teen when he and Rory actually dated- they only dated for half a season because of ENDLESS Dean drama before Jess was promptly written out of the show for an attempt at a spin off that never happened! That’s largely the reason for the scene in the bedroom if you ask me- they needed a reason for him to take off without talking to Rory, other than Luke kicking him out. The potential of Rory and Jess as adults, adult Jess as an author/publisher, is so promising! Potentially you can imagine their intense bookish connection as teens without Jess’s emotional issues from a messed up childhood. Fans were denied a chance to properly explore them as a couple, which is probably why people idealise Jess because all we have then, other then A brief season three relationship, is season 2 where they seem so connected, and have so much chemistry, but the idea that Jess was this ‘bad boy’ kept them apart (I always hated how Lorelai put so much pressure on Rory to stay with Dean in Season 2/3 when it was obvious the relationship had gone stale.) The problem with Logan and Rory is we’ve seen them together as adults, in both the revival and season 6/7 and it just doesn’t work. He brings out the worst in her the selfishness and privilege. We have no curiosity about that relationship because it’s played out. Personally I could never forgive someone sleeping with three women in a like a months period of taking a break.

No, you think Rory&Logan have been played out. And you have no curiosity about the the relationship. I personally think the surface of their potential has barely been touched.

Plus in the revival, Logan listens to Rory’s issues and gives her encouragement, support and his own opinion on them. Logan isn’t the one that brings the selfish and privilege out. He’s just sharing the part of his life they agreed to share. Her actions are her own.And to the final night (until he finds out about the child) he allows her, her own brain, her own choices and her own right to consent.

But Jess hasn’t seen her in 4+ years but he makes sure to tell her what she should do. Yes, it’s just her career this time but he tells her she’s not writing a spec script and that she should write a book and he tells her what to write the book about. He doesn’t talk with her about what she’s passionate about. He tells her what she’s passionate about. Jess is a good guy but he still doesn’t allow Rory her own mind.

I couldn’t agree more. Whenever people ask me why I like Logan better I’m going to show the this article.

Thanks Juliana, that is so kind to say.

“When he sees her do something he thinks is out of character for her, he will call her on it, not because he wants her to be true to herself”

This is what we call: a stab in the dark. There is no basis for that statement other than your own bias. In fact we have the creator of the show herself confirming that Jess understands Rory very well.

In Jess’ situation with Rory and consent, yes he pushed it, but after he saw Rory wouldn’t relent, he let her go. Clearly he made a bad choice, but not necessarily a deal breaker.

With Logan however, you commit the most egregious error. You omit when Logan tried to elicit consent unwillingly in the most sacred act of all: marriage. He used an ultimatum to try to force Rory into marrying him right then and there, when she clearly wasn’t ready. Now you can argue that ASP did not write that scene, which is true, but it is not out of the realm of believable behavior for Logan, simply because he is used to/adept at throwing his weight around to get his way.

It is nice to meet you and welcome to the site. Thanks for sharing your thoughts with our readers.

First, of course this article is written from my bias, there is no way around it, just like your comment was written from you bias. What I love about the conversations with people from differing opinions is that they add more light into a topic, and give people more to think about.

First, what basis do I base Jess’s reason’s for calling her out on things? Well, the easiest example is his visits to Yale. The first visit, he begs her to quit Yale and move to New York with him, the second visit, he calls her out for dropping out of Yale. For me, the two do not coincide unless he is not as concerned about her being true to herself as people often believe, simply because he gets her. If you see it differently, then you see it differently. As you pointed out, we all have our biases.

In Jess’ situation with Rory and consent, even though he backed off, it is a deal breaker for me. Other people might draw the line in a different place.

That said, I actually love Jess’ development over the series.

With Logan, I did not include anything from season seven. As I stated at the end of the article, this had nothing to do with Logan specifically, but with the differences I saw in the characters across the board. ASP didn’t even watch the seventh season, and Lauren Graham blocked out a major plot line for Lorelai because it seemed so out of character, and we know that ASP has put Logan back in London, his father is in the revival, and the Life and Death Brigade is in the revival, I think I can safely ignore season seven as a whole.

I know that some people put him not wanting to commit to a relationship, and “forcing” Rory to do the casual sex thing for a while, as manipulation, and getting her to do something outside of who she was. I also know that many people felt that his attempt to win her back was also manipulation. To me, these were not. Logan always communicated with Rory where he stood on things, and Rory believed that silence worked to tell him things. Once she told him where her lines were, he didn’t cross them.

That said, season seven represents one/third of Logan’s screen time. If you choose to take season seven as part of the story as ASP wanted it told, then, yah, my article would be off.

I just want to bring up Jess’s first visit to Yale. He had JUST been handed over the self help love books. Considering the confidence it gave Luke to persue Lorelai, I took Jess’s proposition as him going for it, as Luke did with Lor. I agree with several other points of the article. Curious your take now after how Logan was in the revival?

As someone who experienced something very similar to what Jess did to Rory, watching that scene made my skin crawl. It wasn’t just that he was ignoring her obvious discomfort and requests to stop, it’s how he treated her afterwards, making her feel like she was at fault. She ran away thinking that she had done something wrong for not wanting to sleep with him. That was FAR from okay, and it really irritates me to see people worshipping Jess in this fandom. His development happened offscreen so it’s meaningless to me.

I definitely agree with you that Logan is the one who respected her boundaries and desires. It wasn’t just in terms of sex or romance, but he actually listened to her when she told him what she did and didn’t like in their relationship. He not only listened, he respected how she felt and made an effort to adjust his behavior. I was astonished by how well-written their relationship was because often on tv, you’ll have a lot of mess ups and big reunions but nothing gets fixed. Rory and Logan are rare.

Hi Elle, Thanks for the comment.

I’ve always thought that off screen development was not nearly as important as on screen actions. While I like Jess as he interacts with Luke over time and even like the latest version of Jess seen in the revival, I don’t want to see him with Rory ever again. My desire is that he accepts that his actions were wrong, that going back to a person who you behaved that way towards is not a good idea, and to start new with someone he treats better. If I had a similar experience as you had, I would probably just want Jess written out of the show.

Rory and Logan are rare, and that is a shame. And you are right, it goes much deeper than sex or romance. I think few people really get what makes this relationship so well written and so unusual, as most people don’t see past Logan’s (and to a lesser extent Rory’s) privilege.

Hi, reading your opinion on Rory’s relationship is very interesting, and I have to say that I agree with you.

And it is very heartbreaking to see Rory and Kogan’s relationship, either from the original series except the 7th, completed original series, or the revival.

I know you did not include 7th season to write this opinion, but I really want to ask your deeper thought on 7th season when Logan proposed Rory. It seemed really out of character Logan always ask Rory’s opinion and not forcing his opinion to her. He even said I will factor you in, but you need to not include me in your decision. So, why rushing the proposal? Why it has to be all or nothing? Are there any reasons we do not know? Did something happen between Logan and his family regarding the marriage? I just cannot get these questions out of my mind.

Sorry if my questions are out of topic here. But i hope i can get some other theories from GG’s fans!

I can’t help but disagree with this article. Not in its entirety, but on the subject of Logan.

I completely agree with you on the Dean portions, and almost entirely on the Jess point, but I feel like Logan was more subtle with how he treated consent. While Jess and Dean both would get angry, upset, or into all out verbal fights over things that Rory did not want to do (Speaking of which, keep in mind, she often tried to make them do things that they didn’t want to do. i.e. Making Jess go a party/dinner/anywhere, and making Dead go to the coming out party/dinner/not beating Jess to death with his caveman arms) the thing is, they were all teenagers, and believe or not, most of this is actually pretty normal and healthy. It’s good to know boundaries, and it’s understandable to be upset when you feel shunned. (i.e. Rory not telling Dean that she loved him/not going with Jess) Their reactions were understandable because the situation caused them emotional pain.

Dean has just professed love, and Jess was finally taking a chance, trying to find his happiness, and both were shut down. That hurts, and even though Rory wasn’t wrong to react the way she did, it’s still understandable that they would respond in a hurt manner. The interesting thing to me, in both of these cases is that Rory is the one more likely to actually make them do something that they don’t want to, so you don’t often get to see her reaction when she doesn’t get what she wants. Which, I think is why their reactions stand out more.

The one instance here that I feel can’t really be argued for, is the Jess and Rory scene in the bedroom. He clearly wasn’t listening to her. True, she didn’t say no, and true, he did stop, but she had to push him off to make that happen. That’s not okay, ever. Now, from experience, I do know that “wait” can often mean that the person just wants to shift positions or take off their clothes, or any variety of things really. It’s not a no, it’s wait. But Jess didn’t really wait… he kinda just persisted.

From a character perspective, I guess you can say that he needed to feel something that wasn’t his messed up life, and that the two of them had obviously discussed it before, but that is not consent. The thing I do take issue with in your article, however, is him leaving afterwards. I don’t think he did that because she wouldn’t have sex with him. I think he did that because he knew he messed up. He knew he was messed up. The second after she leaves the room, he immediately blames himself, he knows he was wrong. He left because he hurt her, that’s what I believe. That’s why he never spoke when he called. It’s why he finally professed his love to her months later and ran. He couldn’t get his mind off of her, but he knew he was still messed up. And that’s why, when he finally had some hope, after using the self help stuff from Luke, he went to ask her to come with him. He wanted a better life. He finally felt like he could have that, not be messed up. Like he was good enough. And he was rightfully rejected.

He’s a self-centered, alcoholic, spoiled, irresponsible, patronizing sociopath.

He, above all others, only does things to get what he wants. He’s not overt about how he does it. No arguments, really. No ultimatums, (until season 7 but, like you said, never happened) no. His form of control is more akin to Edward Cullen. He starts in a very Tristan-like manner (who I firmly believe this character was originally going to be, but due to One Tree Hill, they couldn’t get Chad Michael Murray, so they just created a new character) by rarely calling her by her real name. Instead, he goes with “Ace” which could be taken as sweet, or incredibly condescending. (Mary, anyone?) To me, the name “Ace” is him saying “Aww, you’re so good at stuff aren’t ya!” before patting her head like a dog. I mean, look at how he acts when she brings problems to him, he literally says “Aww, Ace.” and then hugs her. Repeatedly.
Let’s start with consent by talking about their first in-depth interaction. He blind folds her into the woods, refuses to tell her anything that’s going on, gives her a tent to sleep in (without informing her that the trip would be overnight beforehand) and makes her wear a dress when she wakes up. She doesn’t argue with any of this because, according to him, if she wants her story, she has to do all of it, including convincing her to jump from a tower that they weren’t 100 percent certain was safe. Her first response when asked? “No.” Then Logan convinced her to do it. He heard “No.” and convinced her to do it because “it would make her a better journalist”. This is the definition of not caring about consent. Just because he was more clever and didn’t get angry, doesn’t mean that he didn’t do everything he could to get his way, against her wishes.

This interaction, of course, causes her to second guess all of her life choices, which leads to everything else that happens eventually. But first, let’s look more at how Logan controls her.

In the next episode, Rory is talking to a douchewad who clearly just wants to sleep with her and Logan “saves her” in the most cliché way possible. By wrapping his arm around her in a possessive manner and claiming to be her boyfriend, which she thanks him for. Think back to Tristan, he treated Rory much in the same way as the douche guy in this scene, yet Rory always knew how to handle him. But now she needs saving? Odd. Logan then steals some alcohol and gets her drunk with a bunch of his friends, which leads directly to her and Dean breaking up. Especially since he insists on going outside with her to meet her boyfriend and brings his entire entourage. Do you really think that wasn’t a deliberate move?

And of course, who’s there to comfort her the second Dean leaves? With more alcohol, (which, keep in mind she refused earlier that evening) and another arm wrapping for good measure. Skip down two episodes and he embarrasses her in class in front of a student who she is supposed to be showing around school. Later on, he finds out that she wants to meet an author and drops the line “It’s boring. I just go, take a date so I have someone to talk to and bail.” Thus planting that idea that if she’s his date, she can meet the author. And this manipulative behavior is constant in nearly every episode he’s in, leading to him to convince her to have a stringless relationship with him (which of course leads to them nearly having sex at Emily and Richard’s recommitment ceremony) and while yes, he does make sure she’s okay with it, the reason it happens stems from him asserting how unadventurous she is. Then there’s him accepting her offer to hang out, yet forgetting to mention that it’s poker night and that there are tons of people over. This also seemed deliberate.

I could go on and on about his influence in her life, things he’s convinced her of, the way he treats people and responsibility, how his offer to stand up to his father and agreement not to is more a show of his cowardice than listening to her, and on and on if you want. I just realized how long this thing is getting though so I cut it off relatively early into his arch in season 5. There’s still a whole other season and a half to talk about with this guy, but suffice it to say, he’s manipulative. He’s the Edward Cullen, the one who “knows what she really wants” and convinces her of it. And the worst part? He never really changes. Just look at how he looks at her. Dean looks infatuated, Jess looks in love, Logan looks amused.
All of these things I’ve mentioned (and many, many more that I didn’t, arguably far more important things) were under the guise that it’s “an adventure!” or “fun!” And do we even want to get into A Year in the Life?
My point here is that he doesn’t ask her to do anything. He convinces her that she wants to do it. He doesn’t argue about consent because he finds it easier to sway it. Simply, he gets what he wants. Like a sociopath. Dean is old-fashioned. Jess is anti-social. Logan is the devil.

Fully agree with every bit of that eadpevially the last statement lol

Logan called Rory ace for Ace Reporter. It wasn’t a sexual virginal thing like Mary. And he called her Rory quite often.

And Logan did talk Rory into going up the ladder in You Jump I jump Jack but he talked to her and made his case. He talked about reporters who took risks for stories. He piqued her interest. Rory was already looking to be more gung-ho as a reporter because her coworker got an article reprinted in the New York times.

And Logan never makes Rory’s decisions for her. (Not even in the revival). He does present his case. If anything he’s a businessman. Not a sociopath.

The grandparents’ party left Rory in a position she felt she couldn’t leave or get out of situations she could have usually. It was her grandparents who put in in that position. Not Logan.

Logan didn’t force Rory to drink so I don’t know why he brought that up. Rory agreed to go to the pool house on her own. And even with all that alcohol, nobody forced sex on her. Not even a kiss. Logan comforted her like a friend. But yes him going outside caused Dean to question his relationship and again Dean broke up with Rory.

As for Logan talking about the famous writer and then choosing not to take Rory. It was because she was special and he could see she wasn’t the type of girl he usually hooked up with. He never promised her anything and made the decision that even though he liked her, it wasn’t a road he was going to go down. Then at the vow renewal, it was Rory who offered a causal relationship. After talking with her dad, Rory was trying to be like her mom and go for what she wanted. She wanted Logan. Logan didn’t force anything on her. She made her move.

Logan liked Rory. Was he supposed to say no just cause he should make her choices for her? Rory wasn’t an innocent Virgin at this time. She chose causal. And she chose when she wanted more than casual.

Love this point of view and agree completely. I did think about this in regards to Logan’s character and always loved that about him. He was rich and privileged, but didn’t use that position to try to coerce Rory in any way. Puik artikel!

ok so im 16 years old and love gilmore girls so much but anyways i think its really hard to actually choose between the guys cuz theyre great in their own ways
dean is really kind and sweet and jess is fun and got that bad boy thing going but he has a soft side especially for rory and then theres logan whos a fun risk taker and very determined so like i said its really hard to choose which guy i liked best

I personally don’t like any of the boyfriends! The scene when Rory goes back to Yale and Logan will not let her break up with him really makes me itch. It’s been a while since I’ve watched that episode, but it made me very uncomfortable when he barges in and has to convince her to stay with him, “c’mon Ace!” is repeated too much throughout the show and makes me really question how much respect Logan has for woman. Also, I’m never truly convinced that Rory enjoyed Logan’s lifestyle. Maybe its just character growth, but is the girl who watched movies with take out food and her best friend during spring break really the same girl who is constantly partying with Logan? Dean was possessive and though Jess comes around as a adult he was a little punk as a teen and needed a mentor – not a girlfriend. My biggest beef with Gilmore Girls is that we have to watch these guys for so many episodes (which has lead me to this thread!), it is my opinion that home girl has terrible taste in men.

I liked Dean when I was younger. When I recently rewatched it, I changed my mind completely. There are two scenes were you have Dean and Lorelai talking about Rory and his treatment of her as if she was a little child.
To me this shows how he dies not treat her as his equal/ does not support her independence. I hate this scene.
This is not exactely on consent, but it feels like it is a similar topic.

This is way late as compared to the other comments but while I am a fan of Dean simply because of Jared’s later role as Sam in Supernatural, I never liked Jess because his early punk a** actions ruined him for me forever. Now I haven’t quite gotten to Logan yet so I must respectfully sit his season’s out but, has anyone ever thought about Rory and her role in all of this? As a young man, admitting you love someone and them not saying it back is a serious shot in the gut. Imagine what it was like when you were a kid. Now she was in no way obligated to say it back but after that, it was never the same. When Jess shows up however, instead of talking to Dean about what is going on, she keeps him in the dark, she doesn’t understand her feelings? Groovy. However, she is mature enough to know she doesn’t want to say she lives him so she is darn well mature enough to realize she is dragging him along. She continues to drag him along until he finally says enough is enough. Jess is a piece of trash who essentially forces her into sex with brutish passive aggressiveness which to me, warrants broken knees. (Father of two girls myself. I am a little bias.) But I am assuming, Rory is going to be one of those girls who expects people to change for her while everyone should be expecting her to maintain her own identity. I guess I will have to wait and see. If I can make it past the Jess episodes.